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Venom Movie Story is Hinted At - And The News Isn't Good

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This is the first real concrete clue we've had for the plot on this thing... and it's sapped away what little hope I had.

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Roxy Hart . 2018-05-21
Literally all I want from life is a Maximum Carnage storyline movie. Preferably well-made and all that jazz.
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Extreme 2 SwaggerHD . 2018-03-22
But the only thing is though is that for carnage you need spider man to cross and mingle with venom so without any spider man in the movie carnage cannot exist or be made
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Nathan Isles . 2018-03-09
What if he absorbs them? They could all have a certain trait that makes venom venom
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Super Teddy . 2018-03-08
I don’t think it’s a good idea because if it’s not connected to the MCU, then Sony is going to continue their spider verse movies in the Garfield universe even though he was fired. A univerese with no main Spider-Man would be a weird and conflicted and would fail
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Cameron Hickey . 2018-01-10
I see what you mean with this. The only way I can see this working is if Venom and Eddie are two separate entities where Eddie has very little control over Venom so Eddie is the slight bit of tortured good in a pure evil Venom and Venom is killing off these other symbiotes to like prove his strength and dominance. I'm hoping Eddie is very tortured and Venom is only hosting on him as a means to survive and Venom becomes this voice in Eddie's head and it's two separate personalities sharing one body.
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DaveItYourself . 2018-01-02
I think it won't be that bad.
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Mandalorian crusader . 2017-12-30
If they want to tackle Venom's humanity then Carnage is a good villain.
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Tyler Sane . 2017-12-24
Venom and Carnage aren't the same! Infact there complete opposites! You do realize Carnage is the main villain right?
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ThirdCrash . 2017-12-22
Whats wrong with sony, do they really want another flop?
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Gigantis . 2017-12-21
There have been a lot of changes, originally the symbiote origin was the ultimate version, now with planet of the symbiotes being part of the inspiration, then I guess we're getting Alien Venom again.
At first I didn't agree with the video, but as I kept hearing the things you brought up, I noticed the problem being addressed, I agree, venom should be unique by himself.
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Zachary Tyler . 2017-12-19
yesss just venom 1st movie, carnage should be in 2nd movie
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Zachary Tyler . 2017-12-19
I'm not gonna lie, flooding the screen with several symbiotes in the first movie isn't a good idea, maybe in the second one like come on
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Tim Luckett . 2017-12-17
A maximum carnage movie would have been cool unless that's where there going next
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RASHAD321979 . 2017-12-16
Am I alone when I say that i thought this was gonna be a HUGE turd ball from the start? As no offense Tom hardy is a good actor.👍
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Kyle Hoschar . 2017-12-16
Fuck this movie
we have the power to stop Sony and their foolish attempts to ruin Spiderman and his rogues gallery
i hope this movie loses 100 million dollars
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Eon Lorezun . 2017-12-16
Now the Fox deal is done, and their streaming service is about to destroy Netflix, let's face it - Disney has more money than god and is probably more powerful. Meanwhile, Sony's film division is in freefall and they can't get a break. Things are so bad they make WB's DC division look healthy and prosperous by comparison.
So If I were The house of the mouse I would plonk a few bill down on the Sony boardroom conference table along with my big fat cock and say OK boys, how much for the Spideyman rights?
And then when I had brought Spidey home for good, I would book Avi Arad a nice room at the nearest retirement home. One where they can bolt the doors from the outside.
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Jason Hastings . 2017-12-16
That's what the director is doing dude. He is focusing on the connection between Brock and not Venom but the symbiote as an alien entity of its own. Venom is the name given to this form or variant of Brock AND the symbiote hence "We Are Venom". The director is focusing on the bond and maturity of this connection. NOBODY ever said Cassidy or Carnage was a main focus of the movie, they simply said he wouod be in it. That could be a flashback, a memory from the symbiote hivemind etc. I feel you should give the movie a chance.

On a second note yall comparing Venom and every other character to the comic book variants of themselves. THAT is the reason why you guys hate these movies.
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Oscar Villarreal . 2017-12-15
I really want to see a venom movie, I just hope they don't give too much too soon. I hope they deliver a good storyline and make it tie in with spiderman.
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Feral Farrell . 2017-12-14
It’s very ironic because spawn is having the reverse response from it fans. The jaws esk Spawn horror has spawn fans triggered in saying “why isn’t spawn the main hero killing all the bad guys” and I for one as a spawn fan am not. I really want a spawn horror in a way that depicts him as a beast until he tames himself. He is after a bad guy to start with. I see venom is having the opposite effect haha!!
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Gary Harper . 2017-12-14
I agree that I don't want an abundance of symbiotes. Toxin, scream and lasher etc are definitely not needed. But if you think having carnage in this will ruin the movie you are a crazy person. In fact I'm not sure if a venom solo movie works without carnage.
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LaMar Finesse . 2017-12-14
I agree they should focus on the alien symbiote being attacked to his body and how it affects Eddie Brock. As a horror angle for an anti hero in the making that'd be dope.
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The Lemming . 2017-12-13
Of course it isn't. Why would a Venom movie that is not spun out of a Spider-Man film that contains the introduction of the symbiote suit and its relationship to Peter ever sound like a good idea? I knew this film would be shit from the get-go.
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DJGamer . 2017-12-13
I think if they're going to go this route it HAS to just be Venom and Carnage. It would work best if they're planning on this being a one-shot because like you said it wouldn't leave much room to escalate things for a sequel. Also, they'd need to spend at least a good chunk of the first half of the movie laser-focused on Eddie Brock. Of course, this is all a product of my tenancy to lean towards cautious optimism.
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stephen connell . 2017-12-13
My Psychic hotline tells me this is warm cider which makes it even worse and in the 21st Century as well. We are doomed but maybe Venom can save us minus the mug of warm cider but we will have to wait and see how it pans out. Forgive us King Kirby he knows not what he does.
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sam anderson . 2017-12-13
I love the Allister Smyth idea!
That Eddie Brock as a reporter breaks into Smyth's lab and finds the symbiote amd Allister wants it back

Eddie as a reporter is responsible for Casedy being captured and going to jail

Diagnosed with Cancer and as his last story Eddie goes all in to get a big story on Allister
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Stephen Suggs . 2017-12-13
Honestly, the first mistake was making anything to do with Venom.

It feels like parts of Hollywood are 20 years behind cultural trends and still kind of stuck in the edgy phase.
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stephen connell . 2017-12-13
Emergency grab for the Apple Cider in a mug and now you see what happens when a film critic hears a bad story concept. Apple Cider in a mug in the 21st Century!!! This venom film needs to be banned before apple Cider in a mug spreads.
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stephen connell . 2017-12-13
Did someone say Body Horror?? Calling David Cronenberg please report with your Body Horror catalogue to the front office.
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Hurdylyn Woods . 2017-12-13
Dang! Initially when this movie was announced, I wasn't excited about this movie because of the lack of faith in Sony to do a story right especially without having Spider Man to help establish Venom but when Tom Hardy was signed, I gave a bit of hope. But as you break it down with the stories they have picked this to be loosely based from, I'm once again not excited. DAMN! Venom is my 2nd fav baddies behind Magneto and it was hard to stomach him in Spider-Man 3. I was less enthused about a Venom movie without Spider-Man. I heard about Lethal Protector and loved it as a kid but I was hope they would not go with the multiple symbiote aspect but as you speak about it, Sony is gullible enough to do it. DANG!
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Apex Specter . 2017-12-13
I don’t understand why people saying it’s not gonna be good when the trailer hasn’t even came out yet
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DARTHORIAN_DARK_WING . 2017-12-13
i really don't see what all the fuss was about with spiderman 3 after all it will be more fateful than this
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Mako . 2017-12-13
Without Playstation, Sony is facing bankruptcy, so I wouldn't be surprised if Disney buys Spiderman back sometimes soon.
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80's Nostalgia Guy . 2017-12-13
Venom vs Morbius. That would be a good horror movie.
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bust2007 . 2017-12-13
HEY !!! This could be the start of the sinister6 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dr. Madd . 2017-12-12
I liked the idea Agent Venom had where they made Venom's rogues gallery a dark reflection of Spider-man's. Jack O Lantern instead of Green Goblin, Crime Master instead of Kingpin and Human Fly instead of the Beetle.
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Dr. Madd . 2017-12-12
Is Avi Arad involved in this movie? It has his fingerprints all over it. He was the guy who made Rami put Venom in Spider-man 3 (arguably the worst part of the movie) and was one of the reasons Rami chose to leave after he said he wanted Carnage as the Spider-man 4 villain instead of Vulture.
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Nathan You . 2017-12-12
Disappearing and reappearing cup! What vile sorcery is this!?
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VICE : entertainment . 2017-12-12
It shouldn't be planet of the symbiotes why didn't sony mix lethal protector with maximum carnage??
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Eric Cope . 2017-12-12
Spiderman 3 came out the year before iron man
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RoadScholarComics . 2017-12-12
I really enjoy your channel..! Agreeing with basically every one of your points also helps.. ;-)
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AlphaProto . 2017-12-12
When everyone's super, no one is super.
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Surviver 68 . 2017-12-12
Yes you are a news source for me
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Arjanator . 2017-12-12
The Amazing Spider-Man 2, The Emoji Movie, The Smurfs. This movie is DOA; Dead on Announcement.
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Dangerous2099 . 2017-12-12
I disagree with this video, I think the story being based on Lethal Protector and Planet of the Symbiotes is great because it means they don't have to deal w/ Venom's origin (it can just be referenced) and also Spider-Man's presence is not required (perhaps just a brief flashback or mere mention of their 'deal') which also means the film can maintain the illusion/possibility that down the road it could be MCU cannon. Also the McFarlane style Logo and word from those behind the film that Venom will be 8 feet tall all point toward a classic depiction. Really, if your'e a classic Venom fan this all sounds great.
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Ryan Law . 2017-12-12
I always thought this was a bad idea to make a movie about venom without spider-man AND not in the mcu.
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MonkeySmaker . 2017-12-12
you and Philip DeFranko are my go-to news sources for the things that matter.
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Cam M . 2017-12-12
I agree....establishing characters and making the audience care is the key I do think an R rating for whenever they introduce carnage is good.
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Silent J . 2017-12-12
Gonna laugh at everyone when this movie ends up being good. Why do you people wanna see Venom fail so much? You have not seen footage or even the movie yet so chill.
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eon001 . 2017-12-12
You know what I realized, the Carnage Venom rivalry can perfectly replace the same rivalry between Brock and Peter. If they spend the movie having Brock hunting Cletus, you have a whole movie worth character development and hatred brewing between them. Once Brock captures Cletus, he will have just as much bitterness against Brock as Brock did with Peter. Venom will spawn Carnage and the Carnage symbiote will attach to Cletus and have all the spite and hatred we had with Brock vs Parker.
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eon001 . 2017-12-12
I think the Planet of the symbiotes is going to be flashbacks of the Symbiotes journey to Earth. If the Symbiotes try to invade Earth this movie is going to be shittier than I thought.
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